Mr. Ball. Well, did you tell them it sounded like it was from the floor above you, or didn't you tell them that?

Mr. Dougherty. No.

Mr. Ball. You did not tell them that?

Mr. Dougherty. No.

Mr. Ball. Did it sound like it came from the floor above you?

Mr. Dougherty. Well, at the time it did—yes.

Mr. Ball. Tell me this—when you heard that explosion or whatever it was—that loud noise, where were you on the fifth floor—tell me exactly where you were?

Mr. Dougherty. Well, I was about 10 feet from the west elevator—the west side of the elevator.

Mr. Ball. That's the elevator that uses the push button; is that right?

Mr. Dougherty. Yes.