Mr. Dougherty. No, sir; I didn't know that at the time.
Mr. Ball. When is the first time you heard that the President had been shot?
Mr. Dougherty. When Eddie told me that.
Mr. Ball. Eddie told you that?
Mr. Dougherty. Yes.
Mr. Ball. You told Mr. Johnson of the Federal Bureau of Investigation that when you were on the fifth floor, you heard a loud noise and it appeared to have come from within the building, but you couldn't tell where—you told him that on the 19th; did you tell him that?
Mr. Dougherty. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. On the day that this happened, on the 22d of November, you told the FBI agents Ellington and Anderton that you heard "a loud explosion which sounded like a rifle shot coming from the next floor above me."
Now, did you tell them that it sounded like a rifle shot, coming from the next floor above you, or didn't you?
Mr. Dougherty. Well; I believe I told them it sounded like a car backfiring.