Mr. Ball. Who said that?
Mr. Dougherty. Well, Bill Shelley, he told me that he thought he saw him carrying a fairly good-sized package.
Mr. Ball. When did Shelley tell you that?
Mr. Dougherty. Well, it was—the day after it happened.
Mr. Ball. Are you sure you were on the fifth floor when you heard the shots?
Mr. Dougherty. Yes, I'm positive.
Mr. Ball. Did you see any other employee on the fifth floor?
Mr. Dougherty. No, sir; I didn't see nobody—there wasn't nobody on the fifth floor at all—it was just myself.
Mr. Ball. You told me that just before you heard the shots, you had been on the sixth floor?
Mr. Dougherty. Yes.