Mr. Ball. And then you went down to the fifth floor?
Mr. Dougherty. That's right.
Mr. Ball. Did you see anybody on the sixth floor when you were there, before you went to the fifth floor?
Mr. Dougherty. Oh, yes; I did.
Mr. Ball. Who?
Mr. Dougherty. Well, there was Bill Shelley, Billy Lovelady——
Mr. Ball. That was in the morning, wasn't it?
Mr. Dougherty. Yes.
Mr. Ball. That wasn't after lunch, was it?
Mr. Dougherty. No, sir.