Mr. Dillard. I have another negative.

Mr. Ball. Which you will make a print of?

Mr. Dillard. If you wish.

Mr. Ball. Make up a print from each negative. Now, you made a statement to Agent Keutzer of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on the 25th of November 1963, didn't you, or thereabouts?

Mr. Dillard. Yes.

Mr. Ball. And at that time, you told him that you first heard a noise which sounded like a torpedo, didn't you?

Mr. Dillard. Yes, I said——

Mr. Ball. Off the record.

(Off-record discussion.)

Mr. Ball. Did you tell him that hearing another sound similar to that, you realized it was gunfire?