Mr. Ball. Where was the river bottom?
Mr. Brown. You know, actually off to the—between us and the, this overpass you are talking about there's kind of a levee along there. It's really a grade of the railroad, is what it is; that's where they were and then I heard these shots and then I smelled this gun powder.
Mr. Ball. You did?
Mr. Brown. It come on it would be maybe a couple minutes later so—at least it smelled like it to me.
Mr. Ball. What direction did the sound seem to come from?
Mr. Brown. It came it seemed the direction of that building, that Texas——
Mr. Ball. School Book Depository?
Mr. Brown. School Book Depository.
Mr. Ball. Did you see any pigeons flying around the building?
Mr. Brown. I just don't recall that; no, sir.