Mr. Ball. Which way did you look when you heard the sound?

Mr. Brown. When I first heard that sound I looked up toward that building because actually it seemed to come from there.

Mr. Ball. Where was it you saw the pigeons rise?

Mr. Brown. They must have been down there feeding at that time because they just seemed to all take off.

Mr. Ball. Where were they from where you were standing?

Mr. Brown. From where I was standing they would be about half way between—no, they would be up more toward that other overpass, what they call the triple underpass.

Mr. Ball. The triple underpass?

Mr. Brown. Yes.

Mr. Ball. You were about 100 yards from the triple underpass?

Mr. Brown. Approximately; yes.