Mr. Stern. Now on Friday November 22, will you describe what you did concerning the President's visit and where you were?
Mr. Holland. Well, about 11:00 o'clock, a couple of policemen and a plain clothesman came up on top of the triple underpass, and we had some men working up there, and I knew that they was going to have a parade, and I left my office, and walked up to the underpass to talk to the policemen. And they asked me during the parade if I would come back up there and identify people that was supposed to be on that overpass. That is the railroad people.
Mr. Stern. Where is your office Mr Holland?
Mr. Holland. At the Union Terminal Station.
Mr. Stern. Is that within walking distance of the triple overpass?
Mr. Holland. Yes, it is. About—less than a quarter of a mile, a very short distance.
Mr. Stern. And these policemen that you spoke to, there were 3 altogether?
Mr. Holland. Two—there were 2 city policemen and 1 man in plainclothes. I didn't talk to him. I talked to the city policemen.
Mr. Stern. You don't know what his affiliation was?
Mr. Holland. I know he was a plainclothes detective or FBI agent or some thing like that, but I don't know, and I told him I would be back and after lunch I would go up there.