Mr. Stern. Approximately what time did you arrive up there?
Mr. Holland. Oh, I arrived up there, I guess, about a quarter until 12, and I would identify each person that came up there that he worked at the Union Terminal, and department so-and-so.
Mr. Stern. Whom did you see there at 11:45 when you returned, from then until 12:30?
Mr. Holland. Well, I would have to try to remember who all was up there then. There was Mr. Reilly and Mr. R. C. Dodd.
Mr. Stern. Mr. Reilly?
Mr. Holland. Reilly.
Mr. Stern. Who was——
Mr. Holland. R. C. Dodd, and N. H. Potter and Luke Winburn.
Mr. Stern. Luke?
Mr. Holland. Winburn.