Mr. Stern. No; the concrete.

Mr. Holland. Oh, the concrete banister?

Mr. Stern. The concrete banister. Were you right at the banister?

Mr. Holland. I was; would you like to see the exact location?

Mr. Stern. Yes.

Mr. Holland. This is my son standing in the exact location I was in [indicating].

Mr. Stern. Off the record a moment.

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Stern. Back on the record. Well, then, we'll mark this as Exhibit B, reserving Exhibit A for this drawing, and Exhibit B is a photograph you took on Saturday, November 23, of your son standing in the position at the banister of the triple overpass where you were at the time the motorcade came into view.

Mr. Holland. That's right.