Mr. Ball. On Stemmons Freeway?
Mr. Murphy. Yes.
Mr. Ball. Now Position (1) is where you were standing?
Mr. Murphy. Yes.
Mr. Ball. Were there any people standing on the overpass over Elm, on the Stemmons Freeway overpass over Elm, as the motorcade came down?
Mr. Murphy. No; there was no one standing there prior to the arrival of the motorcade or after the motorcade arrived.
Mr. Ball. The only one standing there was you?
Mr. Murphy. It was me.
Mr. Ball. Now, let's go to the railroad overpass, and first of all, as you turned west on Elm from Houston, what is the first overpass that you encounter?
Mr. Murphy. There is a railroad overpass—all of the trains entering and leaving the Union Station cross over that overpass.