And I said also it says "A. J. Hidell."
"Well, I don't know anything about that."
That is all he would say about it.
Then Captain Fritz interrupted and said, "Well, what about this card we got out of your billfold? This draft registration card, he called it, where it showed A. J. Hidell."
"Well, that is the only time that I recall he kind of flared up and he said, "Now, I have told you all I am going to tell you about that card in my billfold." He said, "You have the card yourself, and you know as much about it as I do." And he showed a little anger. Really the only time that he flared up.
Mr. Belin. Was there ever any mention at the time you were there of the fact that he had a right to have a lawyer present? Do you remember anything about that at all, or not?
Mr. Holmes. I don't recall.
Mr. Belin. Did he ever ask to have a lawyer present? Do you remember anything about that at all?
Mr. Holmes. Oh, yes; they talked about a lawyer, and he said he had——
Mr. Belin. What was the conversation? Who said what?