And he wouldn't tell what happened then.
Mr. Belin. Did he say where he was at the time of the shooting?
Mr. Holmes. He just said he was still up in the building when the commotion—he kind of——
Mr. Belin. Did he gesture with his hands, do you remember?
Mr. Holmes. He talked with his hands all the time. He was handcuffed, but he was quiet—well, he was not what you call a stoic phlegmatic person. He is very definite with his talk and his eyes and his head, and he goes like that, you see.
Mr. Belin. Did Oswald say anything about seeing a man with a crewcut in front of the building as he was about to leave it? Do you remember anything about that?
Mr. Holmes. No.
Mr. Belin. You don't remember anything about that. Did he say anything about telling a man about going to a pay phone in the building?
Mr. Holmes. Policeman rushed—I take it back—I don't know whether he said a policeman or not—a man came rushing by and said, "Where's your telephone?"
And the man showed him some kind of credential and I don't know that he identified the credential, so he might not have been a police officer, and said I am so and so, and shoved something at me which I didn't look at and said, "Where is the telephone?"