And I said, "Right there," and just pointed in to the phone, and I went on out.

Mr. Belin. Did Oswald say why he left the building?

Mr. Holmes. No; other than just said he talked about this commotion and went out to see what it was about.

Mr. Belin. Did Oswald say how he got home, if he did get home?

Mr. Holmes. They didn't—we didn't go into that. I just assumed that they had covered all that. Nobody asked him about from the minute he walked out the door as to what happened to him, except somebody asked him about the shooting of Tippit, and he said, "I don't know what you are talking about."

He said, "The only thing that I am in here for is because I popped a policeman in the nose in a threatre on Jefferson Avenue, which I readily admit I did, because I was protecting myself."

Mr. Belin. Because he was what?

Mr. Holmes. "Protecting myself."

Mr. Belin. Now, I want you now to take a look for the first time during our interview here at Holmes Deposition Exhibit 4, and thus far you have been testifying just from memory, is that correct?

Mr. Holmes. Yes; sir.