Mr. Ball. Did you see Jarman and Norman going across Elm?

Mr. Truly. I'm pretty sure there was the three of them.

Mr. Ball. And Jarman and Norman say that they went back into the building?

Mr. Truly. Well, apparently they did, but I saw them out there—I noticed them there on the corner and starting across the street, but whether they completed it—I don't know.

Mr. Ball. Where is the last place you saw Givens?

Mr. Truly. The last place I remember seeing Givens was in the middle of the crossing, in the middle of Houston Street.

Mr. Ball. Walking in which direction?

Mr. Truly. Walking east.

Mr. Ball. Walking east on the north side of Elm?

Mr. Truly. North side of Elm—he had not completely crossed the street—Houston Street.