Mr. O'Donnell. If the President was all the way to the right, the Governor, who was in front of him, would be visible to us. If they were both sitting, they were not. But they did confer back and forth. So the Governor was visible upon occasion. But when he turned around, it was really the first time I had been able to see him clearly.

Mr. Specter. At a time, though, when the President was on the extreme right-hand side, waving, would the Governor then have been visible on the President's left or on his right?

Mr. O'Donnell. He would be on his left.

Mr. Specter. Was the jump seat situated, if you know, to the precise front of the President, to the right, to the left, or what?

Mr. O'Donnell. I don't know.

Mr. Specter. What reaction did you observe, if any, as to Mrs. Kennedy during the shots?

Mr. O'Donnell. Well, he slumped on her. She appeared to be immediately aware that something had happened. She turned toward him. And then the third shot hit. Obviously, she then knew what happened. She turned, looking at the backup car. Meanwhile Agent Hill had gotten off the car and started running up. She was clambering toward the back, and reached his hand, and he was on the car.

Mr. Specter. Did you observe any reactions in the President's car other than those which you have now testified about?

Mr. O'Donnell. No.

Mr. Specter. At what point did the motorcade accelerate?