Mr. O'Brien. Yes.

Mr. Adams. Now, were you in the one directly behind the Vice President's followup car, or farther back?

Mr. O'Brien. I do not believe I was in the first VIP car, because, as I stated when I looked around and the motorcade started to move slightly, I moved toward a car handy to me. I would think that I was in the second or conceivably third open car, because, at that time, we had approximately 10 or 12 members of the Texas congressional delegation, and obviously we, therefore, had perhaps four open cars. I don't recall that I was in the first one—it was the second or third. I was not in the last one, either.

Mr. Adams. Were you assigned to a particular car, or would you just have taken any that would happen to be available?

Mr. O'Brien. I am sure I was assigned to a particular car. As a rule, I would be assigned to the first VIP car—VIP meaning as a rule, again, a congressional delegation. And in this instance, I don't recall the actual car assignment. And it was not unusual for me to not adhere strictly to the assignment.

Mr. Adams. And as the motorcade left Love Field—let me withdraw that and put it this way: You were seated in the back?

Mr. O'Brien. On the right back.

Mr. Adams. On the right-hand side?

Mr. O'Brien. That is correct.

Mr. Adams. From where you were seated in that car, as you proceeded toward the city, could you see the President in his car?