Mr. O'Brien. Only occasionally. There were occasions when you could not see him. Other times, depending on the turns in the road, and what-have-you, you would get a view of him. And there were times when he was upright in the car, and you could spot him.
But, generally speaking, I would say that I was concentrating on crowd attitude and size for the most part, going in toward the city.
Mr. Adams. From what you could see of the President's car, where was he seated?
On the right-hand side or the left-hand side?
Mr. O'Brien. As I looked toward the car, he was seated on the right, with Governor Connally seated directly in front of him.
Mr. Adams. That is right. And Mrs. Connally——
Mr. O'Brien. Mrs. Connally on the jump seat in front of Mrs. Kennedy.
Mr. Adams. As the motorcade proceeded, could you at all times see the Vice President's car?
Mr. O'Brien. No; similarly, the photographers and others would often times block the view. The view of the President's car and the Vice President's car from where I was seated during the motorcade into and through the downtown Dallas was not a clear view. There was an obstructed view for the most part.
Mr. Adams. As you recall it, what were the seating arrangements in the Vice President's car?