Mr. Willis. From the sound, absolutely. And this may be verified by the fact that I took several pictures of the crowd immediately around that building.

Mr. Liebeler. Yes; I notice.

Mr. Willis. I had no doubt about that, because I was that certain in my own mind.

Mr. Liebeler. I don't think I have any other questions about these pictures, unless you can think of something else that you think I should have asked you about, that I have forgotten about.

Mr. Willis. In slide No. 6, people were still on the ground and I took that picture, knowing that the party had come to a temporary halt before proceeding on to the underpass, and I have an arrow there which shows the back of the Secret Service agent climbing onto the back of the presidential car.

Mr. Liebeler. That is that far in the background, way in the back of the picture, or down toward the underpass of the street?

Mr. Willis. Yes; that would be the background.

Mr. Liebeler. I think I would like to ask your daughter about three or four questions about what she saw of it. We might just bring her in while you are still here.