Mr. Altgens. Yes, sir; it was about 30 feet.

Mr. Liebeler. Looking at Commission Exhibit No. 354, we have placed you at No. 3 on that picture.

Mr. Altgens. Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. In looking at Commission Exhibit No. 203, does it appear to you that 203 could have been taken from position 3 on Commission Exhibit No. 354 and only be 30 feet away from the Presidential car at that time—I'm not saying it wasn't—I mean, just what does it look like to you? The question I'm driving at, of course, is—I want to know—did you move from the time you took the first picture, which is Commission Exhibit No. 203, and the time you saw the President's head hit, did you move down the street at all?

Mr. Altgens. May I ask you a question in return?

Mr. Liebeler. Sure.

Mr. Altgens. I have no reason to doubt that by relating other testimony, that you have come up with this figure 1 as being an exact location as to when the Presidential car was struck by the bullet—the first bullet.

Mr. Liebeler. You mean on Commission Exhibit No. 354?

Mr. Altgens. Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. Oh, no; not at all. These figures numbers 1, 2, and 3 don't indicate where the shots hit. They are for entirely different purposes. Figure No. 1 on this picture, Commission Exhibit No. 354, indicates where someone was standing—that's all that indicates.