Mr. Altgens. Well, I will have to ask you this question, then, sir, because as you will know by looking at this picture——

Mr. Liebeler. Commission Exhibit No. 203?

Mr. Altgens. Excuse me—picture 203—there is a tree way behind the Presidential car. Now, figure 1 is placed up in front of this tree, which means that figure 1 would have been behind the car at the time the President received the first shot.

Mr. Liebeler. Yes; referring to Exhibit No. 354.

Mr. Altgens. Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. Of course, that has no significance because these numbers have nothing to do with the place where the car was when the President was hit.

Mr. Altgens. I'm sorry—I just misinterpreted it.

Mr. Liebeler. I can see why you could assume that, because as you look here at Commission Exhibit No. 354, you see 1, 2, 3, and 4 spaced down Elm Street and you did infer that that's the location the President's car was when it was hit.

Mr. Altgens. Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. Which is not right because those numbers do not indicate that in any way whatsoever—they are not related to that notion at all.