Mr. Altgens. Yes; there were also a number of people looking out of—I believe this building here [indicating on photograph].

Mr. Liebeler. Indicating the building immediately across Houston Street from the School Book Depository?

Mr. Altgens. But—they were scattered and once again, I couldn't see anything over there that suggested to me that they might have a rifle, and, of course, the buildings here which are the county records and courthouse buildings—those windows—I think had nobody in them because I believe they are closed and locked. I'm not real certain of that, but I don't recall seeing anyone at those windows over there.

Mr. Liebeler. And you indicate then the building that it catercornered across the street on Houston Street toward Main Street from the School Book Depository?

Mr. Altgens. Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. Right at the intersection of Houston Street and Elm as it comes down and goes past the School Book Depository Building?

Mr. Altgens. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. At any time after you went back up here and to the intersection on Elm and Houston and after the motorcade came, did you have occasion to look down toward the railroad tracks going across the triple underpass?

Mr. Altgens. Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. Did you see anybody down there?