Mr. Walthers. Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. You actually didn't see any of the shots take effect or anything like that?

Mr. Walthers. No.

Mr. Liebeler. How many shots did you hear?

Mr. Walthers. I remember three shots.

Mr. Liebeler. Are you clear about that?

Mr. Walthers. Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler. What did you do after you heard the shots?

Mr. Walthers. Well, I was facing her and I told her that sounded like a rifle and I ran across here [indicating] and there is a wall along in here and I hopped over it.

Mr. Liebeler. You mean you ran across Houston Street and jumped over the wall and back into Dealey Plaza there?