Mr. Zapruder. That's right—in the back of this here, that's where it is—that's what I thought it was—that's where I got mixed up.
Mr. Liebeler. You thought that the concrete latticework on the individual pictures in Commission Exhibit No. 885——
Mr. Zapruder. Now I see it—that's where they have moved now the flowers and all that.
Mr. Liebeler. Yes—I have to state this for the record—so they can understand what we are talking about—you confused it with the concrete lattice work shown in the background in the individual photographs in Commission Exhibit No. 885, with the larger and obviously different concrete structure in the background of Hudson Exhibit No. 1?
Mr. Zapruder. Yes, that—there is Elm Street there—this is a corner.
Mr. Liebeler. Now, specifically here—let me show you the ones that have been numbered 185 and 186 and see if you can recognize those. This is 185 here that we are looking at now—of Commission Exhibit No. 885.
Mr. Zapruder. Yes. This is where he came in from Houston Street and turned there.
Mr. Liebeler. Yes; and they are going down Elm Street now?
Mr. Zapruder. Yes; this is before—this shouldn't be there—the shot wasn't fired, was it? You can't tell from here?
Mr. Liebeler. (no response).