Mr. Zapruder. I believe it was closer down here where it happened. Of course, on the film they could see better but you take an 8 millimeter and you enlarge it in color or in black and white, you lose a lot of detail. I wish I had an enlarger here for you.

Mr. Liebeler. In any event, frame No. 185 does look like it's one of the frames, sir?

Mr. Zapruder. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. And 186 is similar also?

Mr. Zapruder. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Now, I've got a list of them here that I want to ask you about—picture 207 and turn on over to this picture. It appears that a sign starts to come in the picture—there was a sign in the picture.

Mr. Zapruder. Yes; there were signs there also and trees and somehow—I told them I was going to get the whole view and I must have.

Mr. Liebeler. But the sign was in the way?

Mr. Zapruder. Yes; but I must have neglected one part—I know what has happened—I think this was after that happened—something had happened.

Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember when you looked at your pictures yourself, do you remember that there was a sign that does appear between the camera and the motorcade itself and you can see the motorcade for a while and the sign comes in the view?