Mr. Ball. Now, did you see Oswald strike Officer McDonald?
Mr. Ball. With what—with his fist?
Mr. Hawkins. It appeared he struck him with his fist.
Mr. Ball. Which one?
Mr. Hawkins. Right fist.
Mr. Ball. What was Officer McDonald doing at that time?
Mr. Hawkins. I remember seeing him standing beside Oswald, and when I arrived where they were, both of them were down in the seat—Oswald and McDonald had both fallen down into the seat, and very shortly after I got there, a gun was pulled, came out of Oswald's belt and was pulled across to their right, or toward the south aisle of the theatre.
Officer McDonald grabbed the pistol, and the best I can remember, Sergeant Hill, who had gotten there, said, "I've got the gun," and he took the gun and we handcuffed Oswald.
Mr. Ball. Did you hear any snap of the hammer?