Mr. Hawkins. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. And who was the other man?
Mr. Hawkins. Now, Officer Hutson had gotten behind Oswald prior to the time I got there and then also Walker was on the left-hand side—on the left hand.
Mr. Ball. Oswald's left?
Mr. Hawkins. Oswald's left.
Mr. Ball. And who was on the right?
Mr. Hawkins. McDonald.
Mr. Ball. And what about Bob Carroll, did he come in there too?
Mr. Hawkins. Well, I'm sure Bob was in there. I couldn't say where he was exactly or—I do remember Sergeant Hill being there, and I believe he said, "I've got the gun." I think I read an account of where Bob Carroll may have had the gun, but I was under the impression it was Sergeant Hill. I'm sure Bob was there, but I don't know exactly—it was all happening pretty fast.
Mr. Ball. Did any one of these men you have described around Oswald have a shotgun?