Mr. Sims. Yes, sir; they did. I was going back and forth, from the wrapper to the hulls.

Mr. Ball. Was the window open in the southeast corner?

Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. Were there any boxes near the window?

Mr. Sims. Yes, sir; there was enough room for someone to stand between the boxes and the window.

Mr. Ball. Were there any boxes anywhere near the window ledge?

Mr. Sims. Yes; there was, I believe, I'm not positive about this, a couple of boxes, one stacked on the other right at the left of the window and then there was a stack of boxes directly behind the window about 3 or 4 feet high, I guess.

Mr. Ball. Did you see anybody take a picture of the boxes in the window—what position they were on the window ledge?

Mr. Sims. Well, Lieutenant Day took a picture of all the surrounding area there.

Mr. Ball. How long were you on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building?