Mr. Sims. Well, sir; let's see—at the time the hulls were found, I think the hulls were found about 1:15, so we were down there just a minute or two. Let's see—we got back to the city hall at 2:15 and we went over and talked to Sheriff Decker 10 or 15 minutes.

Mr. Ball. Now, when you left, you say that Captain Fritz told Johnson and Montgomery to stay near the place where the hulls were located?

Mr. Sims. Yes.

Mr. Ball. Was that after the picture had been taken of the hulls?

Mr. Sims. I believe it was during—before Lieutenant Day got up there, I believe.

Mr. Ball. And it was after that that you went to the place where the rifle was found?

Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. Then did you go back to the place where the hulls were located on the floor?

Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. That's when the picture was taken?