Mr. Sims. No, sir; I didn't.
Mr. Ball. He didn't tell you that?
Mr. Sims. No, sir; I don't believe he did.
Mr. Ball. All right. Did he tell you that his wife lived in Irving, Tex.?
Mr. Sims. I don't remember if he told me that or not.
Mr. Ball. Now, the first showup was at what time?
Mr. Sims. At 4:05.
Mr. Ball. How did you conduct that showup?
Mr. Sims. Well, we took Oswald down with us with the two police officers.
Mr. Ball. What two police officers?