Mr. Sims. Clark and Perry.

Mr. Ball. You say you took him down—where was he when you took him down?

Mr. Sims. He was in our office, Captain Fritz' office.

Mr. Ball. That would be on the second floor?

Mr. Sims. Third floor.

Mr. Ball. On the third floor?

Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. And where did you take him?

Mr. Sims. Well, we walked out of our door and turned left, and you go a few feet and go to the elevator—where the waiting room for the elevator is—it's a locked door, and then go from there to the basement of the city hall and then go from the elevator there to the holdover room next to the stage, the showup stage.

Mr. Ball. You have a special place for showups, do you?