Mr. Ball. Do you remember whether or not they had ties on?
Mr. Sims. No, sir; I don't.
Mr. Ball. Who conducted the showup?
Mr. Sims. Well, the second showup, I'm not positive, but I believe I conducted the second showup.
Mr. Ball. How did you conduct it?
Mr. Sims. Well, they are all under a number and I would have them—one, two, three, and four, and No. 1 stand on that center back square there and give their names and age and address and if they own a car, where they went to school, where they were born, where they were raised.
Mr. Ball. Did you know who was out in the audience with the witnesses?
Mr. Sims. No, sir; I didn't.
Mr. Ball. Do you know the names of any of the witnesses?
Mr. Sims. No, sir; I didn't.