Mr. Ball. Did you hear any conversation that came from the audience side of the showup?
Mr. Sims. None that I can recall.
Mr. Ball. Now, did you give us in your first showup the numbers assigned to these people?
Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Nos. 1, 2, 3, and 4?
Mr. Sims. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. All right.
Mr. Sims. I'm sure I did.
Mr. Ball. Well, I wasn't sure you did, but give us the numbers assigned to the second showup.
Mr. Sims. The first showup at 4:05 was No. 1, Bill Perry, Lee Oswald, R. L. Clark, and Don Ables.