(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Ball. Were you given any instructions when you went into the showup room?
Mr. Ables. No, sir; none whatever.
Mr. Ball. Had you ever been in a showup before?
Mr. Ables. No.
Mr. Ball. Had you ever heard of officers or employees of the Police Department being used in a showup before?
Mr. Ables. Yes, sir; I have. I hadn't until I went to work for the police department.
Mr. Ball. Did you ever afterwards?
Mr. Ables. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Tell me, it is your conclusion I know, but tell me briefly what you learned as to the practice of the police department of using jail employees or officers in showups? You can generalize. I am not holding you down as to where you learned it. Tell me what you learned about it?