Mr. Ables. Well, only times that I have heard that—I have never seen a police officer or employee used in a showup but only times I have heard of them being used is when they need somebody in a hurry, or need somebody to do that. Well, to more or less look like they belong in a showup or something.

Mr. Ball. Somebody that looks like the prisoner who is in the showup?

Mr. Ables. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. Were you aware when you went in there that you would be asked certain questions?

Mr. Ables. No, sir.

Mr. Ball. You were not? When you went in there where did you stand in the line?

Mr. Ables. I was No. 4.

Mr. Ball. That would be facing the audience?

Mr. Ables. Yes.

Mr. Ball. You were aware then that you were No. 4 in this?