Mr. Clark. Yes; he didn't want to be among the common people; he wanted to stand out. He wanted everybody to know he was the defector.

Mr. Liebeler. And he called attention to that fact to make himself stand out even though it might not have been a wise thing to call to peoples' attention?

Mr. Clark. Yes; I thought it was very stupid of him but he seemed to think it made him somebody.

Mr. Liebeler. Can you think of any other examples of behavior on Oswald's part?

Mr. Clark. Well, he stated while he was in Russia he didn't—he was completely disgruntled by the fact they only made him a common sheet metal worker; that he thought since he was a defector and former Marine Corpsman that he would be given special attention and the fact that he was quite proud of the fact that he did rate a better apartment than the average sheet metal worker. He was quite proud of the few accomplishments he had made and he wanted to impress upon me that he read very much and how much he had read.

Mr. Liebeler. What did he tell you about that?

Mr. Clark. Oh, he said he read all the time and that he read everything he could about communism, about Karl Marx and that he felt that it was much better than participating in sports. I tried to see if he was interested in sports and he wasn't.

Mr. Liebeler. Did he tell you he was a member of any Communist or Marxist organizations?

Mr. Clark. No; he didn't. We didn't get into any phase of organizations. He was more or less discussing his particular life in Russia and what it was like and I was interested in how he got back and why he decided to come back.

Mr. Liebeler. Did he indicate that he had any difficulty in obtaining permission to return to the United States?