Mr. Clark. Well, I was quite surprised as to the ease in which he and Marina and the baby had gotten permission to come back and I asked him "How did you work that?" He said "Well, we just went down and I made application and she was my wife and the child and told them I wanted to go back to the United States. When I secured the passage" he said, "they okayed it." Said "We left." He didn't seem to think it was unusual. He said that he just happened to ask at the right place is what he indicated to me; said "Maybe these other people hadn't hit at the right time or hadn't approached the right person."
Mr. Liebeler. Did he indicate the U.S. Government had given him or Marina any difficulty about them returning?
Mr. Clark. None whatsoever; the reason they hadn't because he had not renounced his citizenship. I said "I thought you said you turned in your passport and wanted to become a Soviet citizen?" He said "I did turn in my passport but they didn't make me a Soviet citizen so I did not renounce my citizenship. So when I made application to come back", he said "They couldn't keep me out."
Mr. Liebeler. He ascribed this failure for this part to the renouncing of his American citizenship to the refusal of the Russians to make him a citizen?
Mr. Clark. That's right.
Mr. Liebeler. He did not mention the U.S. Embassy or Moscow had refused to permit him to return?
Mr. Clark. No.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he indicate any hostility toward the State Department or Embassy or Moscow?
Mr. Clark. He did not seem hostile with anyone in particular. He just thought everyone was out of step but him. He was rather an arrogant-talking person.
Mr. Liebeler. He did not mention specifically any government official, President Kennedy, Governor Connally?