Mr. Liebeler. Would you tell us to the best of your recollection the conversation that took place and what happened at this first dinner at which you met the Oswalds?
Mrs. Meller. We met them and Mr. Gregory said they come from Russia not long ago and we find out immediately that Marina could not speak word of English whatsoever. The baby was probably about 4 months old, baby girl was with. We talked; we didn't have something important, just were speaking about condition in United States and how Marina likes and if you had a job—Lee Harvey. By the way, the first impression of Lee Harvey is a man absolutely sick. I mean mentally sick; you could not speak with him about anything. He's against Soviet Union; he's against United States. He made impression he did not know what he likes, really. She was more quiet and certainly did not spoke much; since we met each other first time, nobody spoke too much. Really, it was easy going conversation but not much. We asked how is her baby and we find out baby didn't have a bed and she didn't have anything to wear and I even don't remember if he had a job at this time already; I don't remember exactly or he was looking for it.
Mr. Liebeler. Did you carry on the conversation in English or in Russian?
Mrs. Meller. In Russian more.
Mr. Liebeler. It was quite clear to you at that time that Marina was not able to speak English?
Mrs. Meller. Yes; absolutely not a word, absolutely not a word; however, he spoke Russian pretty good to understand, amazingly.
Mr. Liebeler. Was his Russian grammatically correct?
Mrs. Meller. Pretty correct.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he tell you where he learned Russian?
Mrs. Meller. I don't remember exactly. Later I heard certain somebody asked because we were wondering how he could speak and he said he took English in school and studied very much at home.