Mr. Liebeler. Russian you mean.

Mrs. Meller. Russian in school and studied at home very much with himself as Marina said later.

Mr. Liebeler. Did you think that his command of the Russian language was better than you would expect for the period of time that he had spent in Russia?

Mrs. Meller. Yes; absolutely better than I would expect.

Mr. Liebeler. Did he ever indicate that he had gone to any school in Russia to learn Russian?

Mrs. Meller. You know, he tried to not to speak much. He was not easy to come to it and speak. He will say some sentences and tried to be more quiet. He was on the quiet side but if he didn't like something, he would raise his voice and get very excited—upset.

Mr. Liebeler. You said your first impression just was he appeared mentally sick. Can you tell us some of the specific reasons why you came to that conclusion?

Mrs. Meller. Later on, when I saw him—I saw him two times or three in the whole period and I saw him mad about some things, about people tried to help Marina with warm clothes and baby clothes. He did not want to take anything. He always said "I don't need". He was against everything and he did not want his wife try to speak English, not a single word.

Mr. Liebeler. Did he tell you why he did not want her to learn English?

Mrs. Meller. He said he wanted to learn better Russian. She has to speak Russian so he can speak better Russian; she don't need English.