Mr. Voshinin. Yes—except that he is an atheist and doesn't believe in God.

Mr. Jenner. Yes, he is an atheist—but he did arrive on the scene or he was on the scene——

Mr. Voshinin. Oh, he was on the scene for a long time before we arrived here.

Mr. Jenner. He was here?

Mr. Voshinin. Yes; he was here.

Mr. Jenner. When you came here then, in September 1955, you found De Mohrenschildt already here?

Mr. Voshinin. Oh, yes.

Mr. Jenner. And was he active among these people—even though, as you say, he's an atheist?

Mr. Voshinin. Oh, he was singing in the church choir.

Mr. Jenner. He was singing in the church choir even though——