But in our church there are a lot of—well, not too many Russians there—not many people with Russian background in our city at all; but we have those called Carpathian Russians and West Ukrainians and we have some Serbians—people with Serbian backgrounds; we have some Greek people even; we have all the Arabic people here—you know, Lebanese and other Arabic countries which are Greek Orthodox; and we have American people with just plain Anglo-American background who became members.

Mr. Jenner. Who became interested in the Greek Orthodox Church?

Mr. Voshinin. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Uh, huh.

Mr. Voshinin. Our pastor himself, was a former Baptist who, through study of church history, became Orthodox.

Mr. Jenner. Is this group—and I'm going to call the group both Bouhe's following as well as the group in which you move—are they, by and large people who have enjoyed higher education either in this country or in Europe, or Asia?

Mr. Voshinin. No; in Bouhe's group there are only a few people with higher education; whereas, in our group, I would say there is a lot of people with higher education. We have doctors and engineers and——

Mr. Jenner. These people, I take it, are interested in the welfare of others in the group—in the general sense of the word?

Mr. Voshinin. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Now, did there move into this community or come into this community that we have now described largely in terms of church, some people by the name—or a man by the name—whose last name was De Mohrenschildt?