Mr. Jenner. Anything else occur to you?
Mr. Voshinin. Well, I also heard from her that she wanted to sell her fashions to the Soviets. And that they went to New York to the Soviet consulate and she was asking whether they can sell any fashions to them—but, as I understand, they say they turned them down, they are not interested. And that was just before their trip to Mexico City. So, there is a slight possibility—but this is just speculation on my part—that they probably tried the Soviet consulate in Mexico City also to sell them some fashions—though I don't know, but this is possible, you know. You know, most of the Russian immigrants, like us, you know, wouldn't deal with the Soviets at all.
Mr. Jenner. You just don't want any part of them at all?
Mr. Voshinin. We don't want any part of it. Our only dealings, you know, is going there to buy dictionaries—you know, and things like that. And that we would prefer not to do in the Soviet store in New York, but rather through an immigrant store who buys it from them, you know. But the De Mohrenschildts they wouldn't have any hesitation, you know.
Mr. Jenner. Of going directly?
Mr. Voshinin. Of going directly to deal with all of them, you know.
Mr. Jenner. I would like to ask you about the Houston trips. Did the Houston trips take place during the years 1962 and 1963, up to the time——
Mr. Voshinin. Up to their departure. That's right.
Mr. Jenner. Up to the time the De Mohrenschildts left for Haiti?
Mr. Voshinin. Uh-huh.