Mr. Jenner. So, they weren't here then?
Mr. Voshinin. No; they left—I don't know which month they left for Haiti—but I think they left way before September.
Mr. Jenner. All right. Do you know whether either of the De Mohrenschildts had been in this country since they left Dallas in the spring of 1963?
Mr. Voshinin. No; I don't.
Mr. Jenner. You don't know whether they have or haven't been?
Mr. Voshinin. I have no knowledge, no; no information about it. And I have seen, you know, Christina and her husband. You know who they are—Kirken.
Mr. Jenner. Spell it, please.
Mr. Voshinin. Or whatever he calls himself—that's Mrs. De Mohrenschildt's daughter and her husband. He calls himself Kirken. K-i-r-k-e-n [phonetic]; Americans call him Kirten [phonetic].
Mr. Jenner. [Spelling] K-a-r-t-o-n?
Mr. Voshinin. [Spelling] K-i-r-k-e-n—or o-n—I don't know. They dropped in when they came from Haiti.