Mr. Vinson. Yes; I think that had a great deal to do with it. I think he was not tall. I was looking at our class picture, and there were several others that were taller and actually all around bigger than he was, but he was just sort of solidly built, just sort of stocky. And this is something that I don't really remember. I was talking to our teacher later on who, incidentally, said she did not remember him at all.
Mr. Liebeler. What is her name?
Mr. Vinson. Mrs. Florine Murphy, and she still teaches the second grade at that school, and she said she had talked to another boy in the class who had remembered him.
Mr. Liebeler. Did she tell you what his name was?
Mr. Vinson. Bill Barnes.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you know Barnes?
Mr. Vinson. I know who he is. I remember that he was in my room that year. We moved from that area uptown, and I only went to that school 1 year, and I remember his name, and I remember who he was, and I had occasion to see him several other times in Fort Worth.
He went to TCU over there, and I think he was a cheerleader or something, and I saw him at the TCU football games, and I just had run across him several times, but recently not to speak to him. I just saw him and remembered that he was in my room at grade school.
Mr. Liebeler. Have you discussed with him his recollection of Oswald?
Mr. Vinson. No; I didn't. I couldn't get hold of him.