Mr. Liebeler. Were you a member of Oswald's gang?
Mr. Vinson. No; I wasn't.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember the names of any of the fellows who were?
Mr. Vinson. No; I don't. Like I say, this was just a playlike sort of thing, you know, and I don't know that.
Mr. Liebeler. Can you remember anything else about Oswald and these out-of-school activities?
Mr. Vinson. I don't remember anything about him out of school.
Mr. Liebeler. I mean out of the classroom?
Mr. Vinson. Out of the classroom, no; I don't know. In the classroom, I don't think he was a discipline problem at that time, because the teacher we had was pretty much of a hot-headed lady. Or maybe I shouldn't say that. Maybe not hot headed, but she was a teacher and she had a big paddle and she kept that in the cloakroom, and I remember that certain boys repeatedly got the treatment, and I don't remember Oswald ever having this happen to him.
He might have been called down for talking or something. Of course just about everybody is for one time or another, but he seemed very—my recollection of him, he seemed fairly quiet. Just he didn't make a lot of noise. He didn't brag or shoot off his mouth a lot. He just seemed to be a quiet type of kid.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you think that his position as gangleader or one of the gangleaders was the result of just his physical size?