Mr. Liebeler. You had done this without telling him——
Mr. Isaacs. That's right.
Mr. Liebeler. That you were going to do it?
Mr. Isaacs. We as a rule do not have to ask these people. What we can do in some instances is to find out what the occupation of the relative is, which I think we got in our intake interview. You see, I'm not positive about this, again, because I think that the worker got his—the brother's name and address, whatever other information they usually get about relatives.
Anyhow, to expedite matters, we always do it just this way. This is not anything unusual with us. We call, and if we are lucky, and somebody—someone tells us that they can send the money, we use these funds to meet the transportation expenses to the place they are requesting to return to.
Let's see—you want me—excuse me. Did you want me to continue?
Mr. Liebeler. Yes; please go right ahead and tell us.
Mr. Isaacs. Because he protested so vehemently, I went to the administrator, or Mrs. Ruscoll, the administrator, and asked her what we were to do about this matter, and she decided to interview Mr. Oswald herself.
I do know that Mrs. Ruscoll spent considerable time with Mr. Oswald, although I don't know just what had transpired between them.
Mr. Liebeler. You were not present during that conference?