Mr. Isaacs. I was not present, yes, sir; during her interview with him.

Later, however, she informed me that she telephoned Miss Elliott of the New York State Department of Social Welfare, who instructed Mrs. Ruscoll to use these funds despite his protestations, which we proceeded to do, and Mrs. Ruscoll then notified him personally that these funds have to be used for the family's return fare.

Mr. Liebeler. You did not have the final conversation with Oswald on that subject yourself?

Mr. Isaacs. I had no conversation with him—my conversation with him was quite brief. My conversation consisted of just telling him that we were using these funds. It was a most brief conversation, as I remember it.

Mr. Liebeler. Now, did you have any other contact with Oswald after Mrs. Ruscoll told him that these funds had to be used?

Mr. Isaacs. I don't believe I did have any. I can't remember. What I did, I think, was to instruct the investigator to take him to some hotel downtown that he would have to stay at until arrangements could be made for his return the next day.

Mr. Liebeler. So Oswald then, as far as you know, stayed in New York overnight that night?

Mr. Isaacs. As far as I know, that is what happened, and I think that the investigator was instructed to get him out the next morning, I believe it was.

Incidentally, Mr. Liebeler, we did not have to spend any money on him at all. He had some money on him when he arrived here. I don't remember exactly how much he had, but he said that he could meet the expense at the hotel, as I recall it.

Mr. Liebeler. Did you yourself prepare any reports on the Oswald case, Mr. Isaacs, as best you can recall?