Mr. Jenner. And what did you say?

Mrs. Bates. I said it was either 2½ an hour or a dollar a page.

Mr. Jenner. A page being 8½ by 11—letter-size sheets?

Mrs. Bates. Yes; uh-huh. And I told him it all depended on what the work was and could I see what it was. And he said, "Yes." And he brought out this large manilla envelope, legal size—oh, I think it was 10 by 14 or something—one of those large ones. And he said, "I have some notes here"——

Mr. Jenner. I have a folder here [showing to witness]—is that——

Mrs. Bates. No; it's one of those that folds over from the top.

Mr. Jenner. I appreciate that—but I'm holding this up only for size.

Mrs. Bates. Oh! Well, it's approximately that long, but it was a little wider.

Mr. Jenner. The length of this, I think [measuring with ruler]—it's 15 inches.

Mrs. Bates. Well, I have some up at my office. I use them all the time to, you know, send abstracts out in.