Mr. Jenner. Did you ever discuss this organization with Lee Oswald?
Mrs. Paine. Yes; I did.
Mr. Jenner. Have you told us in your testimony up to this moment all of your discussion of that organization with Lee Oswald?
Mrs. Paine. Yes; I have. I call your attention to my testimony of a conversation with Lee over the phone saying that I thought that if he was losing his job because of his political views, that this would be of interest to the Civil Liberties Union.
Mr. Jenner. Did any of those discussions embrace the question of what possible help this organization might be to him if he got into trouble eventually?
Mrs. Paine. My judgment is that he took that statement I have just referred to as an implication of the possibility of help from that organization to him personally.
Mr. Jenner. With reference particularly to the possible need at any time for counsel?
Mrs. Paine. He may have assumed such a thing. My understanding of the Civil Liberties Union is that they are not interested in just defending people, but in defending rights or entering a case where there is doubt that a person's civil liberties have been properly upheld.
Mr. Jenner. Or might be?
Mrs. Paine. Or there might be such doubt; yes. I wouldn't know whether Lee understood that.