Mr. Jenner. At least your discussions with him do not enable you to proceed to the point at which to enable you to voice any opinions in this area or subject than you have now given?
Mrs. Paine. No.
Mr. Jenner. Were you aware of the name John Abt before you received the telephone call you testified about from Lee Oswald?
Mrs. Paine. No; I had not heard that name.
Mr. Jenner. And, therefore, you never suggested it to Lee Oswald?
Mrs. Paine. No; that is right.
Mr. Jenner. You are a modest person, but could you indicate for us how fluent you are or you think you are in the command of the Russian language? Please don't be too modest about it. Be as objective as you can.
Mrs. Paine. It is a very hard thing to describe, but I might start by saying that I have perhaps an 8 or 10-year-old's vocabulary.
Mr. Jenner. You are using as an example the vocabulary of a native Russian citizen of the age of 8 to 10 years old?
Mrs. Paine. Yes; I do not have that much fluency. If the subject I am talking about is something in which I have developed a vocabulary—and these subjects are mostly in terms of home or the things that one does—then I can proceed with an ability to convey my meaning. If it gets into anything technical which would use terms such as insurance or taxes, I have to look it up. I approach any writing of a letter with some dread, as it is difficult for me. I might say in this connection that I presume to teach Russian, not because I am fluent, but because I think my pronunciation is particularly good for a nonnative, and because I have gone the route of the beginning student and know how to do this, and have thought a great deal about what helps a person to learn. I would not presume to teach English to people who didn't know the language, though I am fluent in it.